While it’s true that a life dedicated to drug use will get you either incarcerated or killed, warnings of these consequences are ineffective in getting you to quit using. But, before you give up on yourself or your loved one (again) please listen to this conversation with Tim Alexander and Joseph Stephens of the McShin Foundation. They are in the business of saving lives and have come clean about their individual addiction experiences to teach us what it’s going to take to change the culture of drug abuse – beginning with our own thoughts and responses and ending with a successful message we all can share.